Viđ tökum ţátt í gleđigöngu !!


- Don’t be afraid, God is guiding you! -

This last week of April, Lutheran ministers of the National church of Iceland held their annual synod in the town of Húsavík. The main issue on the table of discussion this time was the partnership/ marriage of homosexuals. Very heated discussions were among the ministers during the synod. The synod voted on a bill, which was presented with joint signatures of 42 ministers including two unordained theologians advocating for unification of the traditional concept of marriage – between a man and a woman – and homosexual marriage into one concept regardless of gender composition. The bill did not pass with the result of voting 64 against, 22 for.

There were indeed many who could not join the synod in Húsavík, and as the synod didn’t allow absenty ballots, the number doesn’t really reflect the percentage of for or against among ministers. But anyway, headlines like “Church denies to marry gays” or “Church loves (people) with conditions” danced on the front page of many papers the next day.
In my recognition, these words are rather provoking but not conveying the fact from the synod. But at the same time it shows us the irritation and the feeling of disappointment of general society against the indecisive attitude of the church regarding the “gay-marriage” issue.

I would like to spend some words here to explain briefly what is happening in the church in this issue, and also I would like to show my personal opinion afterwards. It would be fair to say in advance that I am not at all neutral in this debate. I am for the opinion that the concept of “marriage” should be independent of the gender composition. I am one of those 42, who brought the bill that was rejected at the synod in Húsavík and I have been expressing this opinion consistantly last five years.

1. Attitudes among ministers of the National church

What kind of views exist about gay partnership/marriage issue in the church? Let’s have a quick view over the scenery.

A) The Bible prohibits homosexuality and therefore, irrespective of if it is because of sin or a kind of sickness, homosexuality isn’t accepted by the Christian faith.
B) Homosexuals have the same rights as the other straight people. They have a full right to live together with their own life-partners and pursue a life of happiness. Establishing the partnership belongs to civil authorities and the church has no direct business with it. But a minister should offer blessing, with his own decision, onto those who wish to receive it on the occasion of establishing their partnership.
C) Almost same attitude as B. But the secular initiation of the partnership should be also taken care of by ministers as well as marriages of the other people.
D) The concept of marriage should be one, including both relationship between men and women, and homosexual relationships.

Around the same period as Halldór Ágeirsson, the prime minister at that time, expressed his will to improve the legal rights and status of gay people in the summer of 2005, a special committee on behalf of the National church, consisting of ministers, theologians and jurists (the committee of dogmatics), was entrusted with the assignment to write a report about “gay marriage which is parallel to the traditional form of marriage (partnership)”. At the synod in Keflavík in 2006, the committee introduced its draft to the participants. This draft says clearly on one hand that it has come to the conclusion that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality and this report should be estimated appropreately in this point. On the other hand, the draft is a report about the partnership of homosexuals and does not directly address the question if it is desirable to separate the partnership from traditional marriage or if marriage should be a unified concept.
This report was the main topic of discussion at the synod in Húsavík. Therefore many of the participants were not really ready to vote for or against the proposal of unification of gay partnership and traditional marriage.

The majority at the synod agreed instead that ministers are allowed to offer a blessing to gay couples. A draft for a ritual of blessing was also agreed on (attitude B). The proposal that ministers should take care of the secular initiation of the partnership, not only the blessing (attitude C), was directed back to the committee for further reporting.

In addition to the above, it would be necessary to point out that in Iceland the legal initiation of matrimony is still in the hands of the church, not only in the hands of the civil authorities. In Iceland, unlike many countries in western Europe, the minister’s declaration of marriage has a direct effect on the law to put two persons together. Namely the religious acts and the civil laws are not completely divided at this point. This makes it to some extent complicated to handle gay marriage. Some people say that marriage belongs to the unique authority of the religious institute, and others put more emphasis on the general human rights. The right answer seems to me: both right.

In order to avoid this confusion, some ministers ask: “should the church transfer the authority to establish matrimony to the civil authorities and concentrate on its religious significance only?” This opinion is not yet dominant among ministers, but it will be unavoidable to face this question soon or later.

2. What is the mission for the church now?

I have been trying to describe where the issue of gay marriage has been located in the church so far as neutrally as I can do, so that we can see what is happening in the church.
Looking over the world, the countries that have set a concept of marriage that is independent of gender composition are for example Holland, Belgium, Spain, Canada and more, not yet hundreds of countries. Talking about the partnership act, then many European countries and many states in the US are adapting it, but these are from the standpoint of civil law.

Apart from independent free churches, there is no denomination who as of yet recognizes gay marriage on equal term with the traditional marriage without any distinction (using one word marriage in stead of partnership). Obviously it is far heavy task to change its course from it has been till now for the religious authority. The national church of Iceland is no exception. In this sense, the Icelandic church is no worse than other churches in the world.
Nevertheless it is not at all a Christian way to look at oneself only in relationship with ones surroundings. Because then you lose your identity in the relationship between God and yourself, where your own call and mission is revealed. This is something unique and you cannot compare it with others.

In my understanding, the Icelandic church has the best environment in the world to step forward and recognize formally the unified marriage as a religious term. The small size of the society where every single person can be recognized as an individual, considerable mono-cultural background, the absence of a big gap in the religious value table in the society, already well opened public existence of the gay people and the positive attitude of the society towards them. All of those factors are to the advantage for the Icelandic church to step one step ahead of the rest of the world. But in other words, it would be considered as cowardice if the church wants hide itself behind other churches and doesn’t use those advantages that are being given to it.

Of course people could ask: “though the surrounding conditions are ready, shouldn’t the church refrain from doing something until the act will be confirmed to be theologically right and Christian-faithful?” That is quite right. But in my opinion, we have already crossed the biggest hurdles both theologically and Christian-faithfully. The majority in the church acknowledge, as well as the majority in society, the presence of gay people, their life as persons and their rights. The support to the partnership act show us that. Then why not marriage? What is the reason that we have to separate gay marriage as partnership from the traditional marriage? Is there any theological reason really? Or is it perhaps an emotional hinder that makes it difficult for us to accept it?

The churchly congress in October is supposed to draw a temporary conclusion on the issue. We have to work on it.

First appeared in the Reykjavík Grape Vine in June of this summer.

10 - 12 ministers of the National church will have pleasure of joining the "gleđigöngu" tomorrow at Gay Pride. I will be there, too, but I am so shy ...
Blush for being in front of many...



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1 Smámynd: Steinunn Helga Sigurđardóttir

ţetta verđ ég ađ lesa seinna ! kvitta bara fyrir mig og vona ađ lífiđ hjá ţér sé fallegt

ţađ er ţađ hjá mér !

Ljós og friđur til ţín

 steina í Lejre

Steinunn Helga Sigurđardóttir, 10.8.2007 kl. 16:10

2 Smámynd: Jón Valur Jensson

Thanks for inviting your readers to a discussion on this matter, brother Toshiki. I should like to offer two points on your introductory words where I happen to see things in a different light.

First, You say: "There were indeed many who could not join the synod in Húsavík, and as the synod didn’t allow absenty ballots, the number [64 vs. 22] doesn’t really reflect the percentage of for or against among ministers." How do you presume to know that? 40 ministers (not counting the unordained ones) had subscribed to the radical declaration calling for full rights of homosexuals to marry in church. 18 of them appear to have been absent. But so were at least some 50 other clergymen who had voting rights on that synod. You cannot really assume that your proposal enjoyed a majority following among those around 50. Or was it such a bitter defeat for you at Húsavík so as not to be able to accept the truth without that evasive 'explanation'?

Second, You tell us here that ""headlines like “Church denies to marry gays” or “Church loves (people) with conditions” danced on the front page of many papers the next days" after the Húsavík decision, and you like to describe in the way that it "shows us the irritation and the feeling of disappointment of general society against the indecisive attitude of the church regarding the “gay-marriage” issue."

May I disagree here. Icelandic journalists did not really have the patience of waiting for the voice of the general public to be heard on that specific proposal of those 42 liberal theologians; the headlines had to have their way anyway! Nor do those pronouncement-bent media-men and women (which tend mostly to be overly-liberal if they are not rather radical left, and a lot of them badly informed), show much patience toward the Lutheran National Church as she takes her needed time to think over those issues in the light of genuine, authentic Christian faith with its Biblical sources. What I am saying is that a considerable part of Icelandic media-folks have willingly jumped on the wagon of supporting excessive liberalization in every possible field regarding homosexuals and their presumed rights, even if that directly and severely affects the named Church and other churches in this country, yes, even to the extent of advocating marriage in church for homosexuals, which directly contradicts Holy Scripture, notably St Paul in his letters to the Romans (1.26f), his 1st letter to the Corinthians (6.9-11) and his 1st letter to Timothy (1.10). This is the foundation of Christian ethics which has to be honestly addressed before the National Church decides to sever its bonds and solidarity with all the main churches of the world on this issue.

With kind regards,

Jón Valur Jensson, 10.8.2007 kl. 18:02

3 Smámynd: Toshiki Toma

Sćll, kćri Jón Valur.
I am honoured to have received your comment.
I will answer you very shortly now.

At the first point, I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I was not expecting that, if all the pastors had been there in the synod, the bill would have been won the majority. No, no.
What I meant is the fact that there were many pastors those who wanted to vote for the bill, but couldn’t because they couldn’t be there. Actually I myself was one of those. So the result of 64-22 is not exactly reflecting the “for or against” balance among the pastors. I mentioned this simply because that the people might wonder why there were only 22 votes for the bill while 42 members were presenting the bill.

It was not at all bitter for me that the bill didn’t win the majority, because I believe that many, that are enough to form the majority in the near future , were not ready to vote for the proposal of unified marriage. They need a bid more time. And that is one of the main points that I wanted to say in this piece.

About the second point (about the journalism) here, it seems to me that I am not so away from what you are saying. I am saying that those head-lines were not correct but rather emotionally provoking without showing what had happened at the synod. And I think the media people should have more professional and skilled responsibility for their jobs.

Finally about , what you say, the “genuine, authentic Christian faith with its Biblical sources”, I say that I am standing FAR away from you. The passages which you are mentioning are about the sexual relationship (and that is being separated from the love relationship) between same gender and not about the gay marriage as you know yourself.
So I may refer a bit wider than only about the gay marriage itself, but to the homosexuality general in Christian thought. Kćri Jón Valur, please remember that the “kenningarnefnd” of the church stands basically different position from yours. Namely the “kenningarnefnd” has come to the conclusion that the Holy Scripture does not condemn homosexuality as I wrote in the piece, and this conclusion of the “kenningarnefnd” is being accepted by the majority. The majority has agreed to give blessing onto the gay relationship. What is left here is about if the gay "partnership" should be considered as "marriage" or not. So at this point, it is you who don’t belong to the majority (of the National church theologians).

Anyway, thank you again for the comment.

Bestu kveđjur,



Toshiki Toma, 10.8.2007 kl. 20:51

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Ţarft innlegg frá ţér, en af hverju er ţađ ekki á íslensku? Mér skilst ađ ţú sért prestur á Íslandi, ćttir ţá ađ hafa tök á tungu innfćddra, og ţetta varđar ţá, án tillits til enskukunnáttu!

Örn Ólafsson (IP-tala skráđ) 11.8.2007 kl. 15:01

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Til hamingju međ ađ vera svona ćđislegur prestur, hjartahlýr og opinn fađm. Vona ađ fleiri prestar eigi eftir ađ fylgja ţínu fordćmi.. góđur hlutir taka tíma

Ljós og friđur

Björg F (IP-tala skráđ) 12.8.2007 kl. 19:49

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Toshiki you are a real priest, dont let a person full of hatred like Jon bring you & real religion down he is hopefully the last of a dying breed that wants to bring us all back to the dark ages.

Rock on!!

DoctorE (IP-tala skráđ) 13.8.2007 kl. 15:02

7 Smámynd: Jón Valur Jensson

Toshiki er ţó alltjent kurteis ...

Jón Valur Jensson, 18.8.2007 kl. 03:41

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